05 August 2017 @ 05:20 pm
More Wrangling, More Clarifications  
The nominations process is ongoing. As of today, you all have five days to submit all of your nominations. So far, so good, despite a number of bumps that have since been smoothed. The tag set is still here. If you encounter errors, wandering tags, and the like, or if you have a question that needs an answer (especially if it did not get addressed at one of the previous posts; there have been a ton of comments), please start commenting here, and one of us will get back to you as soon as we are able. Otherwise, keep nominating that femslash.

EDIT – Tag migration between the two different versions of BanG Dream! fandom has already been brought to my attention, and that will be addressed on my next pass through the tag set.
 
 
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Muffins[personal profile] evilmuffins on August 5th, 2017 09:33 pm (UTC)
Sorry to keep bugging you guys! But Ophelia/Soleil has wound up in Fire Emblem Fates twice.
Thanks for all the hard work!
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marsupial fruitcake: change your destiny[personal profile] cypher on August 5th, 2017 11:15 pm (UTC)
Soleil is just too excited about spending time with cute girls!
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 6th, 2017 09:08 am (UTC)
It's absolutely never bugging! Thank you for all your help, this looks fixed again now but I'm working off an iPad so if I've mucked up lemme know. AO3 is a bit clunky to use on mobile.
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(Anonymous) on August 5th, 2017 10:20 pm (UTC)
Looks like somehow "Stargate Atlantis" got approved as a separate fandom from "Stargate - All Series." Most of the Atlantis pairings are already approved under All Series, except for Teyla Emmagan/Sora, which would have to be moved.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 6th, 2017 09:01 am (UTC)
Thank you! It should be fixed again now, but I'm working off an iPad which makes AO3 a little clunky so if it looks like there's any persistent issues let me know.
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trobadora[personal profile] trobadora on August 5th, 2017 10:27 pm (UTC)
There seems to be "Doctor Who" as well as "Doctor Who & Related Fandoms" in the tagset.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 6th, 2017 08:41 am (UTC)
Thank you! It should be fixed again now, but I'm working off an iPad which makes AO3 a little clunky so if it looks like there's any persistent Doctor Who errors let me know.
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speaking in tongues[personal profile] xenoglossy on August 6th, 2017 05:19 am (UTC)
In Fate/stay night and Related Fandoms, you have both "Irisviel von Einzbern/Arturia Pendragon | Irisviel von Einzbern/Saber" and just "Irisviel von Einzbern/Saber."
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 6th, 2017 08:48 am (UTC)
Hmm, okay that looks like something's gone a little wonky. From googling am I correct that Irisviel is one character and Arturia | Saber is another character?

I'm guessing one was meant to be a straight Irisviel/Saber pairing and the other was maybe meant to be a selfcest OT3 of Irisviel/Saber/a repeat of one of them. It's not the first tag that's made word salad of characters with multiple names, so I'll leave it for now and pop it in the next clarification post for the nominator to chime in on.
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speaking in tongues[personal profile] xenoglossy on August 6th, 2017 02:29 pm (UTC)
Irisviel is one character and Saber | Arturia is the other, yes.

I understand the need to ask the nominators what they meant and I am not at all saying you should just take my word for it and not do that, but I have to say that as someone familiar with the fandom I think it's highly unlikely that, if someone did want a selfcest threesome, they would nominate it as Saber/Arturia/Irisviel. Saber and Arturia aren't separate personas, one's just an alias. It very, very much looks to me like two people meant to nominate the same two-person pairing, but one piped it and one didn't.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 6th, 2017 04:42 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation!

And sorry, my comment was probably confusing because I'm trying to shorthand things while writing on an iPad. I didn't mean they might be trying to nominate the alias as a separate person, that was unclear of me. What I think has happened is the second Irisviel and the Saber have been switched (so the middle should actually be Arturius | Saber as a single complete character tag) but I don't want to assume AO3 is glitching consistently on two vs three person tags. We've had multiple tags with Name | Name where half of what should one tag seems to be getting switched with someone else, it's starting to get distinctive.
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samuraiter[personal profile] samuraiter on August 7th, 2017 10:32 am (UTC)
For the record, that unusual threesome also popped up during tag sorting last year, so I think it's been hiding in the Fate tags for quite some time.

EDIT – ... which means I should've caught it when it popped up again, but that's what happens when pairings have lots of "bar" (|) names.

Edited 2017-08-07 10:36 am (UTC)
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(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2017 01:35 am (UTC)
Eve Baird/Mrs. Olinsky was nominated under The View From Saturday - E.L. Konigsberg, but there is not a character named Eve Baird in the book. Googling the name brings up a character from The Librarians, so perhaps the nominator intended the pairing to go into the crossover section instead?
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samuraiter[personal profile] samuraiter on August 7th, 2017 10:37 am (UTC)
I agree with that assessment, so the pairing has been re-labeled and moved to the crossovers. Thank you for catching that.
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(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2017 05:20 am (UTC)
Lucca Quinn/Maia Rindell has migrated from The Good Fight to The Good Wife. (I'm not the nominator, but it should definitely be in the former - Lucca appears in both but Maia is only in The Good Fight.)
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 8th, 2017 09:24 am (UTC)
Good catch, thanks! Should be fixed now.
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(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2017 05:25 am (UTC)
Under West Wing, Ronna Beckman's canonical girlfriend isn't a speaking role but does have a canonical name (Cindy). Don't know whether it's worth changing it or not.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 8th, 2017 09:38 am (UTC)
It'll make it easier for us to spot any duplicates with the correct name, so I've gone ahead and changed it. Thanks!
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(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2017 05:31 am (UTC)
This has to be the weirdest migration I've ever seen: Jessica Drew/Natasha Romanov (Marvel 616) has somehow made it into Lady of the Shard.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 8th, 2017 09:28 am (UTC)
Oh dear, yes that's a little odd! Thanks for the heads up, it should be correctly placed now.
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[personal profile] weakinteraction on August 8th, 2017 08:38 am (UTC)
Hi, mods. Is it OK with you if I make a copy of the tag set (as in literally just c&p the whole page) to look for migrations? I'd share what I found, of course. (And if my method works, I'm planning to write it up. I did it for Fandom Growth but I want to double check that it works/test some refinements.)
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 8th, 2017 09:31 am (UTC)
Absolutely! It's a public tagset so you don't need our permission, but you definitely have it if it makes you more comfortable playing with it. I'm really curious to see what you're trying now, it certainly sounds useful.
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[personal profile] weakinteraction on August 8th, 2017 10:41 am (UTC)
Thanks! (I thought I'd ask first rather than just saying "Oh, btw I used you as a test case" after the fact.)

It's very kludgey and somewhat time consuming, but if it works it should find every migrating tag.
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[personal profile] weakinteraction on August 8th, 2017 06:53 pm (UTC)
I've found a few dozen migrated tags; rather than spamming these comments with them, your mod account should have just received a sharing link for a Google sheet containing them. (It won't necessarily look like it comes from me, as my account I use for Google isn't this one, but it does.)
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samuraiter[personal profile] samuraiter on August 8th, 2017 10:19 pm (UTC)
Thank you for your efforts. I'll see if I can get some clarification from the nominators as to where some of these go.
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(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2017 12:19 pm (UTC)
The Tolkien noms are a bit of a mess.

Tags that are where they don't belong (as far as I can tell):

Under Silmarillion: Galadriel | Artanis/Goldberry (LOTR)

Under Lord of the Rings: Amarië/Edhellos | Eldalótë (Silmarillion)

Under The Hobbit: Arwen Undómiel/Original Female Character(s), Celebrían (Tolkien)/Original Female Character(s) Celebrían/Finduilas Faelivrin, Celebrían/Goldberry (Tolkien), Celebrían/Original Female Character(s) Galadriel | Artanis/Goldberry (all LOTR, though Celebrían/Finduilas should be Silmarillion only imo)

Angelica Baggins/Pimpernel Took and Lobelia Sackville-Baggins/Belladonna Took are under Hobbit and LOTR both, but I'm not sure they have any reason to be.
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samuraiter[personal profile] samuraiter on August 8th, 2017 11:33 pm (UTC)
Okay, these should be appropriately relocated now, though I'm leaving the Baggins-Sackville-Took stuff where it is for the time being.
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