16 July 2015 @ 02:01 pm
Discussion Post  
Before we post the updated rules, we thought we'd have a space for member discussion. There were some great comments in the wrap up post last year, and we wanted to talk about how some of those might be implemented this year, especially in regards to fan artists, and how to be more inclusive and welcoming to them.

Schedule for 2015 round is as follows:
10-20 August: Nomination Period
23 August to 2 September: Signups open
5 September: Assignments will be sent out by this date
17 October: Fanworks due
23 October: Archive goes live (or as soon as everyone has a gift)
30 October: Creators revealed

We've made an LJ feed so you can follow us there at [livejournal.com profile] thefemslashex

Here's what we're thinking of changing:
1. Nominations:
Poly: This year we are allowing the nomination of poly groupings, so long as all the characters qualify for the fest (thus f/f/f or f\f/f or f/f/f/f etc = fine; f/f/m or f\f/m = not in this fest, though you may list it as an option in your optional details/prompts.)

Crossovers: This year we are allowing crossovers. Please nominate them as under the fandom: Crossovers - Fandom, and list the characters with their fandom after the character name (Example: Pepper Potts (MCU)/Seven of Nine (Star Trek: Voyager). Thanks to rarepair for figuring out how to do this.

RPF: RPF characters must be over 18 at the time of nomination, and must be public figures in their own right (no girlfriends/kids/parents of public figures permitted).


2. Defaulting:
There won't be a penalty-free default date. Instead all defaulting will be penalty-free, but people who flat out don't submit by the due date, or who submit incomplete work, will not be allowed to participate next year.
ETA: We are still asking people who defaulted after the no-penalty date last year to sit this year out. You are welcome to treat, and may sign up again for the 2016 round, if you wish. /ETA


3. Anon period:
There will be a week-long anon period after the archive opens.


4. Treats for Pinch Hitters
We're thinking of having a post, probably put up around the due date, where pinch hitters could list some requests and prompts. Our current thought is that the pinch hitters could e-mail the mods, and the mods would put the prompts in a DW post, and interested parties could make them gifts. It would look something like the following, with up to four prompts:
Username:
Likes:
Squicks:
Prompt #1
Fandom:
Pairings:
Prompt:



5. AO3 Accounts:
Unfortunately, there's no way to get around needing an AO3 account for matching and thus sign ups. We will have invites this year, so people who don't have an accout yet can jump the queue, which has gotten rather long.

We'll also put up a post about how to use AO3 and hints for tagging. Well, at this time we're planning to link to posts, as there's no sense reinventing the wheel. I'm happy to take suggestions as to which posts people have found most useful. AO3 itself has a lot of basic tutorials, but other links are great too.

We are going to create a mod account, so that people without AO3 accounts can pinch hit and treat via that account. The work would be e-mailed to the mods, who could post it to AO3. Proper credit would of course be kept track of, and edited in after reveals.


6. Art Hosting:
I've been told that imgur is useful for anon art hosting. Is this true? I haven't used it.
I'm also happy to temporarily host art on my photobucket, at least until the anon period is over. Or, if there's going to be a lot of call for it, we could make a fest-specific photobucket.
We know there's conflict between wanting to sign your work to cut down on image theft, and having an anon period. Would watermarking your art with "Femslashex" or "do not reblog" some variation thereof, and after reveal swapping it out for a properly signed picture be an acceptable compromise? Any other ideas?


7. Art-friendly Prompts:
We're going to do a post about art-friendly prompts, and would like input from artists as to what those look like from your perspective.


8. Advertising:
Several people last year suggested a fan-art based banner that would advertise the fest and might be reblogged around and about tumblr. Since Team Mod is at below stick figure levels on art, would someone be willing to make something in that line? I don't want to seem grabby, but we also don't have anything to offer in exchange save adding prompts to the pinch hitters' prompt post. Does that seem fair?


9. Other Media:
We know we were talking about vids and podfic last year, but we don't want them to seem like an afterthought as art did last year, and we really don't have a handle on them, so we think we'll put off including them for the time being.


10. Free Space:
Did I forget something? All suggestions welcome. Anon comments are on, and you can always e-mail the mods at femslashexmod@gmail.com
 
 
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aiffe[personal profile] aiffe on August 24th, 2015 06:03 am (UTC)
Re: Banner
Yay! And also, kinda dumb thing but I wanted to thank you for something, I saw on tumblr how someone tried to challenge the asexual/queerplatonic inclusion in the fest, and as an ace-spectrum lesbian I immensely enjoyed the smackdown they received. (I wasn't the person nomming things with ampersands, and I was fine with those not being allowed too, ace relationships can use the slash and be real ships! God in most fics you wouldn't even know if the girls were ace or not, just that they're in love!) But yeah you do a really good job of not excluding fringes of queer lady identities while not making them the center focus (which is perfectly comfortable for me, it's okay to be included and not take over) and stuff like including nonbinary femmefolk and so forth, parts of queer identity that I so often see treated as "dequeerifiers" like you're less of a lesbian if you're ace and nonbinary and etc, and so much fear of like, not being a pure enough lesbian which gets so gross and gatekeepy and exclusionary. Anyway yeah it was like a breath of fresh air and I was like "I am supporting this fest any way I can come hell or high water" and I showed it to an ace friend of mine who hadn't been planning on participating but might now. We're both completely comfortable writing romantic and sexual femslash so I swear there's no ace takeover, it's just nice to feel...not hated.
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Muccamukk[personal profile] muccamukk on August 24th, 2015 06:25 am (UTC)
Re: Banner
I certainly didn't mean it as a smackdown (can sympathise with not liking the no-homo vibes that one corner of the queerplatonic crowd put off, though I'm also unsure that the no-homo corner would actually sign up for a femslash challenge). As I said, I have no interest in policing anyone's definitions or sexuality. For one, it never ends well. And I have no time for the whole lesbian hierarchy. Gold star, my Aunt Fanny.

The fest has run pretty well on an honour system so far, so if people are comfortable with the range of other people who are going to be involved, and that they want different things, and understand that it is all under the non-binding labels of "fem" and "slash," then, -shrugs- have at.
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aiffe[personal profile] aiffe on August 24th, 2015 06:54 am (UTC)
Re: Banner
Oh I know--it was very polite! I certainly wasn't looking for rudeness from you guys. But it was also a firm "we're not excluding people" and that's a rare and beautiful thing. :) It isn't that I wanted you to be mean to or embarrass anyone, just that it was very clear it wasn't going to be a debate or a compromise.

and yyyyeah tbh there are ace people who take it to the weird no homo place (or no romo, which like, is fine, but not femslash?) but it actually seems way more common to me that allosexual people do the no homo/no romo thing with "ace headcanons" for characters they just don't want to ship (90% of it is PoC ace headcanons by white allosexuals who want to ship everyone else I s2g) and there's a contingent ~tumblr people~ (I say, as a tumblr person) who will jump on every new canon f/f ship and go, "what if they were ace?!" and I'm like "what if u chilled" but yep exactly I don't see why these people would sign up for a femslash fest, and tbh I think a lot of it is coming from allosexual people who don't have a good idea of how ace romances actually work. It's hard to imagine ace lesbians wanting to erase themselves? Everyone else does a great job of that already lol.

And like ace people have been in the lesbian community since forever (there's old slang terms like "stone butch" and "touch-me-not" for lesbians who like to give but not receive sexually, which is a very ace way of having sex) and Boston Marriages (some of which were undoubtedly sexual, but some of which also probably were not) and yep I'm so sick of the gold star thing too.

Basically I've been told by people that my identity is offensive because "lesbians have a history of being desexualized" (like they realize I'm a real person? Not a fictional character? people who think you can just pick the "best" sexual orientation ugh) on the one hand, then had people try to use my identity to no-homo lesbians which is like using me to erase myself and yep to have you guys say that even though ace stuff isn't the point or the main show of the fest that it doesn't cancel out f/f romance or LBPQ identities and doesn't need to be purged...thank you.

I wrote porn for the fest last year and my requests always say all ratings are good, asexual != antisexual and besides it's fiction? IA that this probably wouldn't be a good choice for people actively uncomfortable with fictional depictions of sexuality in all forms, but even the acest person I know isn't like that when it comes to fandom. ppl don't have to only make stuff of their exact orientation, and rarely do! I don't even come here to promote the Ace Agenda, just knowing the door is open for other people to portray characters who are like me if requester and filler are both into it...it's good.

This got way too long, basically I just wanted to be like, thumbs up, good job, making people feel safe and welcome, A+.
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