09 August 2017 @ 08:15 am
Yet more wrangling and clarifications  
Nominations are still open here.

This will likely be the last catch-all wrangling post until after nominations close on the 10th.

Ongoing issues that require input from participants and/or the original nominators include:
  • The following Wonder Woman crossover tags require clarification on which form of Diana is requested. If we don't hear from the nominators, would others agree that Wonder Woman any and then optional details apply on both sides is a good solution? Our other option is to assume the 2017 movie as that's been far and away the most popular choice.
    • Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)/Barbara Gordon (DC Comics)
    • Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)/Hermione Granger (Harry Potter)
    • Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)/Tina Goldstein (Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them)
    • Peggy Carter/Diana - we have approved a 2017 version, but there was more than one nomination. If you were a nominator and wanted a different Wonder Woman variation please let us know.

  • Huuro | Elesa/Kamitsure | Skyla, Pokemon - we seem to be getting some character name word salad going on. Can the nominator confirm that they intended Kamitsure | Elesa / Fuuro | Skyla, or provide more information.

  • Cinderella/Princess Charming, Fairy Tale - this was declined as an ineligible gender swap of Prince Charming, but if there is Fairy Tale relevant canon with a female charming please let us know!

  • BanG Dream! Girl's Band Party! (Video Game) and BanG Dream (Anime) are currently approved separately but appear to have some character overlap. If anyone is familiar with both fandoms, we'd love to hear input on similarities between canons and whether it needs to be combined.

  • Marvel - we had a lot of wandering tags as always, and we think we caught and correctly associated everything, but do double check your comics vs MCU vs Netflix etc pairings are in the right spot and let us know if not so you don't get a surprise during sign ups. From here on we will duplicate, not delete, anything that's been wrongly assigned to one or the other (unless the characters don't appear in that version of canon) so if one of your pairings was already nominated you don't need to worry about it disappearing on you.

  • The following fandom combination decisions have been made, and all additions are also being noted at the first nominations post so you can view the full combined fandoms list together if you need to reference anything.
    • Once Upon a Time in Wonderland pairings are being included within Once Upon A Time
    • Disney - All Media Types is being used for all Disney pairings including Princesses
    • Ashes to Ashes and Life on Mars are combined into Life on Mars & Related Fandoms
    • The Vampire Diaries and The Originals have been combined as The Vampire Diaries & Related Fandoms
    • DC Cinematic Universe includes: Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, Wonder Woman, Justice League, Aquaman, and Suicide Squad.


Lastly, please keep issues and corrections coming and if something in your nominations was approved or declined and doesn't appear in the tagset, let us know! Especially double check your nominations are correctly listed if you nominated for a fandom that is combined (particularly if you didn't use the already approved umbrella term, if we have declined the individual fandom it may automatically decline your pairings as well without showing them to us first), your pairing includes one or more people from one of those fandoms and might require editing to be unique, your pairing is a non-canonical tag, or if a character in your pairing has multiple names that might have gotten jumbled by AO3.

And as we're approaching the end of the nomination period, get your nominations in quick if you haven't already!

If you want to nominate or sign up and don't have an AO3 account, shoot us an email at femslashexmod@gmail.com and we can help you out with an invitation. Also a reminder to our Tumblr followers if you need help with anything that you may get a faster response by anon-commenting on Dreamwidth.

Edit: Don't forget to check the tagset before nominating if you're close to your nomination limit! I just declined three new variations of Natasha Romanov/Dottie Underwood in MCU because it's already in the tagset. Double check the existing tags first and you might find you can fit a few more pairings in.
 
 
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Muffins[personal profile] evilmuffins on August 9th, 2017 12:23 pm (UTC)
Huuro | Elesa/Kamitsure | Skyla, Pokemon
This was me. Huuro is Elesa's Japanese name, and Kamitsure is Skyla's. Most of the Pokemon character names are pipped, as it's originally a Japanese fandom, and this is the Ao3 canonical for them as far as I know.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 9th, 2017 02:01 pm (UTC)
It is a canonical, you're right, but it seems to have been wrangled wrong by AO3 or there's something we don't know about canon so we wanted to double check. The pairing tag is connected with the character tags: Huuro | Skyla and Kamitsure | Elesa. Did you mean this Elesa and this Skyla?
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Muffins[personal profile] evilmuffins on August 9th, 2017 03:25 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's them! I never knew the Ao3 canonicals were backwards since i've only played the game in English! My bad.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 10th, 2017 12:30 pm (UTC)
No problem! It's an easy source of confusion when the tag has been made canonical, it should be fixed now.
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(Anonymous) on August 9th, 2017 02:57 pm (UTC)
You've got it backwards. Huuro is Skyla (fuu means wind) and Kamitsure is Elesa (from kaminari, meaning thunder).
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(Anonymous) on August 9th, 2017 01:22 pm (UTC)
Not in Pokemon fandom, but just adding (in case it caused any confusion) that "fu" and "hu" are different transliterations of the same Japanese sound (ふ) so Fuuro and Huuro are both correct and the same name, though Fuuro would be a more common transliteration. (Huuro seems kind of an old-fashioned way to do it? IDK. Sometimes older style transliterations are canon because the creator looks it up in some ancient textbook and that's how they write it in English. Or they just like the aesthetic, or who knows.) Kind of like how in Cardcaptor Sakura, "Syaoran" is canonical, but "Shaoran" would be a more modern transliteration.

Anyway, I don't know which is canonical for Pokemon fandom, or if there's even consensus, nor which AO3 considers canonical, just putting it out there that they're both valid spellings of the same name. AO3 is a bit of a mess with regards to some anime fandoms, especially the more heavily localized ones.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 9th, 2017 01:55 pm (UTC)
Oh, that is very helpful to know, thank you!
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sapphire2309: Rachel[personal profile] sapphire2309 on August 9th, 2017 03:53 pm (UTC)
I think I accidentally nominated Jesssica Jones/Melinda May under Marvel instead of as a crossover between marvel and marvel netflix. Sorry!
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Lunar: JJ - [Jess] super real with super flaws[personal profile] shopfront on August 10th, 2017 12:18 pm (UTC)
No problem at all! It has been fixed.
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kmo[personal profile] kmo on August 10th, 2017 04:31 am (UTC)
Hi I nominated Easter/Media and Media/Bilquis under American Gods and meant it to show up as the TV fandom not the book. I didn't even notice it came up as the book fandom when I nominated. Can these be switched to show up under American Gods (tv) please?
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 10th, 2017 12:26 pm (UTC)
No problem at all. As we're close to end of nominations I've duplicated them under the TV show instead of moving them outright, like I said I'd do for Marvel, in case someone wanted them for books and assumed they'd be covered.

I don't know the fandoms well so if someone thinks those pairings aren't applicable to both/the canons are similar enough to combine (or not combine) please feel free to weigh in!
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kmo[personal profile] kmo on August 10th, 2017 03:14 pm (UTC)
Thanks! The show has only made it through less than a third of the book material so there are characters in the book canon that haven't appeared yet. I think it's worth keeping the canons separate.
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Star of Heaven: ❋ Rose[personal profile] rubylily on August 10th, 2017 07:23 pm (UTC)
There's a spelling error under Persona 5: Succubus/Tamaki Ann should be "Succubus/Takamaki Ann."
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 11th, 2017 10:21 am (UTC)
It's been corrected, thank you!
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x_dark_siren_x: Beauty & the Beast - she's a funny girl[personal profile] x_dark_siren_x on August 10th, 2017 09:05 pm (UTC)
I'll stop being a pain after this, I swear, but under Elementary, there's a nomination for "Irene Adler/Joan Watson". In the show, Irene's an alias of Jamie Moriarty, so the show pairing normally tags as "Jamie Moriarty|Irene Adler/Joan Watson". I don't know if the nominator meant Moriarty (maybe their tag got cut off, or they've not got to the reveal yet), or if they meant it as a crossover pairing with Irene from the movies, books, or Sherlock, but I thought I'd raise it, especially as it's one of my go-to pairings for this challenge. :)
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Lunar: Elem - [Joan] remarkable everything[personal profile] shopfront on August 11th, 2017 10:28 am (UTC)
I think it meaning Moriarty is probably the safest assumption, so I've edited it to the canonical to ensure there's no confusion. From memory that went into the tagset pretty early on as well and it's not a super rare pairing, so if the nominator pops up actually wanting a crossover I'll duplicate and not delete. Chances are you aren't the only person who might have skipped nominating it once it was in the tagset, after all.

And thanks! It's definitely never a pain and we appreciate the help spotting things.
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x_dark_siren_x: Avengers - Nat; [personal profile] x_dark_siren_x on August 11th, 2017 12:30 pm (UTC)
I'm glad I could help. :)

I actually have a wee question about my nominations, would here be the best place to ask, or would it be better to message you or one of the other mods?
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 11th, 2017 12:36 pm (UTC)
You're very welcome to email the mod account or to PM me (I think my settings should allow it, if not and you'd rather not email just lemme know and I can tweak them), if it's something you prefer not to discuss in comments.

If it's something you're happy to discuss in public then yes, here in the comments is absolutely fine!

Edited 2017-08-11 12:42 pm (UTC)
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x_dark_siren_x: bb!cowgirls[personal profile] x_dark_siren_x on August 11th, 2017 01:02 pm (UTC)
Awesome, ty. :)

I just noticed one of my noms (Claire/Sif in crossovers, since it's Netflix/MCU) was rejected, and I was wondering if I did something wrong with it? I had a hell of a time trying to get AO3 to even accept it on my nomination form, so I changed it like a million times, and just wondered if it happened when I was doing changes. :)
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 11th, 2017 01:20 pm (UTC)
Oh, probably not! Can you see it in the tagset at all? I'm not finding any Sif under crossovers, so if you want to give me the full tag I can check and edit it in if need be.

Sometimes if something isn't associating correctly we will delete and start over, and that might show up as a rejection. That has probably happened a lot with things like Marvel where we're battling tag migration. Or in some cases we've declined the fandom (AO3 was being really annoying about capitalisation for crossovers and it kept duplicating, so that might actually have been the problem for you) and it will then auto-decline future pairings if the fandom is declined.

Both for you and if anyone else is reading this and had a similar issue - if you think your pairing is eligible and it was declined + hasn't shown up (possibly slightly edited) in the tagset definitely drop us a comment so we can look into it!
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x_dark_siren_x: DW - oh my beautiful idiot (TARDIS)[personal profile] x_dark_siren_x on August 13th, 2017 10:17 am (UTC)
I'm not seeing Sif in crossovers either, myself.

The tag I first tried to put in was "Claire Temple (Marvel Netflix)/Sif (MCU)"; it ended up being just Claire Temple/Sif before AO3 would accept it. It also wouldn't take "crossovers - Fandom" as a fandom, despite me copying and pasting directly from the tagset, because it "already existed" (I thought that was the point of AO3 lol); I ended up putting it as "crossovers - Freeform" for AO3 to accept my nomination form.

I hope this helps! :) Thanks for all the hard work you're all doing on this.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 13th, 2017 06:11 pm (UTC)
Oh wow, that sounds like AO3 woke up on the wrong side of the bed! I'm not even sure why it would have been refusing those, how odd. I've added it in manually so you're covered for sign ups. If you ever need to argue that hard with a nomination form in the future I would definitely recommend flagging it to a mod, we have more tools than you can see to fix things if it's being weird.
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x_dark_siren_x: bb!cowgirls[personal profile] x_dark_siren_x on August 13th, 2017 06:48 pm (UTC)
You're such a star, and I definitely will, thank you! :)
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Lunar: TVD - [Katherine] laugh out loud[personal profile] shopfront on August 13th, 2017 07:51 pm (UTC)
You are very welcome!
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(Anonymous) on August 11th, 2017 07:20 pm (UTC)
Galadriel | Artanis/Goldberry (LotR) migrated back into Silmarillion.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 11th, 2017 07:32 pm (UTC)
Oops, has been fixed now, thank you!
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