Nominations clarifications #1

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We've now cleared the queue and have a few fandoms that need clarification.

All franchise fandoms
Please check the shared fandom list before nominating! In particular we have seen Legends of Tomorrow, Agent Carter, Frozen (Disney), Doctor Who and Star Trek titles being incorrectly nominated so far. We avoid approving incorrectly nominated fandoms, please make sure you've used the correct title for your franchise to get your nominations approved.

Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon | Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon
We have accidentally approved this without the (Manga/Crystal) or (Live Action TV) version specified. Can the nominator(s) confirm which they intended? Otherwise we will assume Manga/Crystal and move them accordingly.

Crossovers
We are approving ships with broad fandom titles without clarification this round. If you have nominated something like Wonder Woman, Lord of the Rings, etc. and haven't stated a specific movie/book/title, you will be rolling the dice on which version of the character your recipient/creator prefers. If there's any issues with tags already approved that you'd prefer to be more specific after all, just drop us a comment.

DC's Arrowverse
Maggie Sawyer/Astra, and Alex Danvers/Astra - does the nominator(s) intend General Astra or Astra Logue (Legends of Tomorrow)? If we don’t hear back, we’ll assume General Astra.

Zari Tomaz | Zari Tarazi - the canonical tags include both versions of Zari, how would Arrowverse fans like her handled? Each Zari seems quite distinct and there is potentially a good case for nominating them separately.

Persona Series
We have nominations for Persona Series, and for Persona 5. Is this a shared universe we should be combining?

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Gemma and Seza were nominated as separate characters. Individual characters are not allowed so we have approved one nomination for Gemma/Seza. If this isn’t what the nominator intended, please drop us a comment.

She-Ra and the Princesses of Power
She-Ra Entity/Champion Selected to be She-Ra - are these original or canon characters, and if canon are these the best names?

Don't forget to read the rules before you start nominating, and let us know if anything looks odd! Nominations will remain open until 9pm EDT, 13 September, 2020.

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Comments

[rubylily]

I found a duplicate under Love Live! Sunshine!!:

Sakurauchi Riko/Tsushima Yoshiko (Sunshine!!)
Sakurauchi Riko/Tsushima Yoshiko

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Thank you! I've removed one of them.

[havocthecat]

I'm one of the Zari nominators, and I'd prefer nominating them separately as they're two distinct characters from distinct timelines and have interacted with each other (and have different plots, and acknowledged they're different people), but they were stuck together in the one canonical tag I saw (ugh), and so I used that. If we can nominate separately, I'll go back and change my nominations tonight.

[havocthecat]

Or whenever you change it, so that's fine, just let me know when you decide!

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That'd be great! Don't feel confined by canonicals - if the canonical tag seems right by all means use it (it helps cut down on accidental duplicates on our end), but you're more than welcome to mangle them into whatever seems better as needed eg. by being specific about your Zari's or using a non-canonical for the fandom title to match our rules/shared fandom list.

Edit: just to confirm, we haven't approved any Zari tag's that I can see. So you should be okay to go ahead and change everything later, and we'll approved the edited versions.

[havocthecat]

Okay, I was going to go in last night, but I've been dealing with a major allergy attack (it's ragweed season, and I got hit with a faceful of that plus two other major allergy triggers this weekend), so I sat and watched Lucifer last night instead, but will revise my Zari nominations today.

[commoncomitatus]

Unless I'm mistaken, the two nominations for Vagrant Queen (TV) are duplicates -- the first (Elida Al-Feyr/Amae Rali) is the correct tag, while the second (Elida El-Feyr/Amae Rali) seems to be a typo of the first.

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Thank you! I've removed the second tag.

[evilmuffins]

Persona 5 has some Easter egg nods to the other games (mentions of them on the in-game tv news or an unlockable poster). Otherwise, there isn't any crossover. I am one of the P5 nominators, though and I'm fine with combing it if the mods would prefer.

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That sounds like very minimal sharing if no characters crossover. I'm fairly sure we normally kept them separate in past rounds, so I'm happy to stick with that unless someone pops in to argue for combining.

[vivaforever597]

There's also a side game, Persona Q2, that includes the characters from Persona 3, 4, and 5. It is a shared universe (3 and 4 also cross over in P4 Arena, P4 Arena Ultimax, and the first PQ), and I could see how someone who wanted to nominate, say, Ann/Yukari (from P5 and P3, respectively) would seek to put it under Persona Series rather than Crossovers. But that's a relatively rare case, I think. I'd personally say keep them separated.

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Ah, okay, that definitely sounds more like it meets our requirement for a shared universe if characters from different games do (occasionally) meet in some parts of canon. I'll leave the question open for now if other people want to weigh in, though.

[aicqt]

There's minimal crossover but they are all set in the same universe. Well, 3, 4 and 5 are in the same universe, and the related games eg persona q. There's some time/fate/gods shenanigans to do with philemon around the first two (three, technically, persona 1, persona 2 innocent sin, persona 2 eternal punishment) games from what I understand (I've only played a little of them). There are cameo events linking p4 to p3 and p5 to p4. PQ and PQ2 are set in pocket dimension type settings and never referenced in the main series, and Persona 4 arena is set in the future and contains characters from p3 and p4 as a continuation of the main game's plots.

Personally, I think it would be reasonable to group them as "persona series" but people might feel strongly about being able to request/offer them separately for minimum number of fandoms/maximum number of ships, etc.

[sonofgodzilla]

I agree - also the fighting games and stage plays, and to a lesser degree, the dancing games all feature overlap between 3, 4, and 5.

I can see the case for *not* including 5 properly yet as the only real interaction has been support characters from the other stories in 5's dancing game, but as the events of Persona 4 Arena hinge on characters and concepts extrapolated from 3, it seems like it would be churlish to exclude 5 based on the fact that a full on crossover hasn't happened yet.

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Thank you everyone for weighing in! It sounds like it is indeed a shared universe, so we will combine all tags under the Persona Series umbrella tag going forward.

[reflectedeve]

Hey, sorry to be a bother; I failed to check the shared fandoms post thoroughly enough and nominated a pairing under Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon | Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon, thinking it was all media types. My noms haven’t been reviewed yet but it looks like I can’t change or remove that fandom. Help?

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Totally not a bother! That's on us, because we mistakenly approved it - once it's been approved in the tagset, it'll automatically approve it on your end when you enter it later. If you could copy your nominations here and then delete the ships from your nominations page (so we don't duplicate them unnecessarily), and let us know which fandom tag you meant to use, we can enter them manually for you.

[reflectedeve]

When I realized the problem yesterday, I deleted all the pairings I had under the blanket fandom. I only had 9 nominations, so I added "Sailor Moon (1992 Anime)" as my 10th nomination, complete with pairings. Does that work? (I’m Lilith, if it helps.)

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We can't see usernames for nominations, but yes that's perfect! If you find yourself wanting that 10th spot back, feel free to pop back here and take us up on commenting with an additional set of nominations for something else anytime before sign-ups start.

[reflectedeve]

Hmm. Well, if you decide the rogue "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon | Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon" fandom is Manga/Crystal, I’d like to nominate Meiou Setsuna/Queen Serenity to that one, too. Otherwise, I’m good with my nine slots.

Thanks for all your hard work!

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You got it! They should appear under Manga/Crystal now as well.

[reflectedeve]

Thanks so much!!

[(Anonymous)]

There's a duplicate under She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (2018):
Adora/Catra/Glimmer (SPOP 2018)
Glimmer/Adora/Catra (SPOP)

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Thank you! I've removed the extra tag.

[(Anonymous)]

SPOP and Maggie/Astra nominator here--I went back and clarified Astra as "Astra In-Ze", thank you for catching that.

Re: the SPOP nomination--I guess that's s good question. I wasn't sure how to phrase it because I wanted to leave it open to use either Mara or Adora (or, I guess, someone else?)--focusing on the relationship between She-Ra the magical being and the hero who embodies her. But maybe that's a little too ambitious?

[withinadream]

Yeah, we generally want more specific characters than that in ships. I'd suggest nomming She-ra Entity/Adora, She-Ra Entity/Mara, and/or She-Ra Entity/Original Character Selected To Be Champion. (And apologies for leaving you screened! We turned on anon screening last year after a bad bout of spam bots and apparently never turned it off.)

[vivaforever597]

Oh, I was one of the Sailor Moon nominators (Minako/Rei, Rei/Ami, Rei/Usagi, and Makoto/Ami), and I meant Manga/Crystal.

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Thanks for the heads up! Everything has been moved to Manga/Crystal now, including your nominations, so if anything looks weird still just let us know.