11 September 2020 @ 12:41 pm
Nominations clarifications #2  
General reminder to please check the shared fandom list. We will not be approving incorrect franchise fandoms, and you risk your nominations being rejected if they start to block the queue - Star Trek nominators in particular currently need to double check their fandom tags. Update: Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, and Dragon Age fans, please also double check your nominations against the shared fandom list.

Also a reminder that & relationships (ie. gen) are not allowed in this exchange. All pairings should be femslash pairings, with a / to indicate romance. We usually correct gen tags into ships as we go, assuming errors, but we’ve now had a spread of nominations where the same characters are nominated twice - once as gen and once as femslash. Duplicate gen nominations are and will continue to be rejected. If anyone has questions or is confused about this, feel free to drop by our rules post to discuss.



Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon | Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon (Anime & Manga)
We have approved these nominations as (Manga/Crystal). If another version was intended, please check the shared fandom list and drop us a comment to discuss. We have also moved all nominations under the umbrella fandom into (Manga/Crystal) as mentioned on the last post. If you have nominated for Sailor Moon, please double check the tagset and let us know if your nominations are in the wrong spot.

Hannibal Lecter Series - All Media Types
We believe the TV and movie series are adaptions of the books, so a shared universe tag may not be appropriate. Could Hannibal fans please drop into the comments to discuss how they’d like these fandoms handled? Update: Hannibal (TV) will be kept separate, but we would still like to hear from book and movie fans.

Law & Order
We have nominations for Law & Order, and Law & Order: SVO. Can the nominator(s) confirm whether these shows share a universe? These shows have been combined, and the shared fandom list updated.

Motherland: Fort Salem
Sarah Alder & Biddies was rejected as gen. If the nominator wanted a poly nomination, please drop us a comment and also confirm which Biddies you wanted included in your ship.

Persona series
We are discussing whether to combine Persona as a shared fandom. If anyone feels strongly either way, please join the thread to discuss.

Star Trek: Lower Decks
Lower Decks looks like it should be included as part of Star Trek Classic canon. If this is incorrect, can Lower Decks fans please drop into the comments to discuss. Please check the shared universe list and alter nominations accordingly, Lower Decks ships should be nominated under Classic.

The Legend of Heroes (Video Games)
We have Trails of Cold Steel and Trails in the Sky nominated. It appears to be an 'interconnected' series of games according to wikis - is this a shared universe, or should it be handled separately like Final Fantasy? Update: The Legend of Heroes: Trails is currently proposed as a shared universe fandom tag. Please drop into the comments to discuss if you would prefer a different shared tag.



Don't forget to read the rules before you start nominating, and let us know if anything looks odd. We are approaching the last 48 hours of nominations (countdown) so make sure to get your fandoms and relationships in on time!

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reconditarmonia[personal profile] reconditarmonia on September 11th, 2020 02:40 pm (UTC)
Not the nominator, but there aren't really distinct Biddies*; if they don't show up to clarify then they probably meant Sarah Alder/Biddies as poly.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on September 11th, 2020 03:15 pm (UTC)
Would the Biddies be distinguishable in other ways, eg. by description? Like how we allow nominations such as Legolas' Mother, even when we don't have a name.
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reconditarmonia[personal profile] reconditarmonia on September 11th, 2020 04:27 pm (UTC)
It'd be difficult (they are the older women in the left of the shots here: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L_OjAPsgTAk/Xoyg5afihZI/AAAAAAAANR0/Ot-eVD1t-KcxIIy5-MWXPDGkFDqIJesLwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/Screenshot%2B2020-04-07%2Bat%2B8.18.40%2BAM.png and here: https://s1.dmcdn.net/v/S83dk1UV592DgVjZz/x720 ) but I think that's not really the issue - it's not that they're distinct characters who happen to lack names, it's that they're a group without distinct individuals, and are partly even notable for their collective behavior (eg. clicking/hissing at people who cross Alder).
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on September 11th, 2020 04:35 pm (UTC)
Thank you, I'm not at all familiar with the fandom so that's very useful information and I really appreciate the help! We normally try to avoid groups in places of characters, but if they act collectively this might be an exception. If the nominator shows up we can discuss whether Biddies or Biddie/Biddie/etc. (like how we handle Original character poly nominations) is best for what they're wanting out of the request.

Motherland was one of the fandoms with duplicate gen and femslash nominations, so I won't put it in yet unless we can confirm with the nominator either way.
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ladyjax[personal profile] ladyjax on September 11th, 2020 05:30 pm (UTC)
Hi! I'm the nominator in question for Sarah Alder & The Biddies. I know when I nominated it I was thinking about more friendship than solid relationship, but I also didn't realize that given the way AO3 works, a lot of what was pulling could be considered gen.

Sara Alder/Tally Craven could cover "Sarah Alder/Biddy" because Tally becomes Biddy in the finale of the first season. Prior to that, viwers know the Biddies as a collective vs. a specific individual. Even when a Biddy is replaced (there was a specific ep about it), I don't think the person being replace or her replacement was named out loud.

All this to say, if you need to remove that part of the nomination, I'm totally okay with it.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on September 11th, 2020 06:18 pm (UTC)
If you do want Sara/Biddies in some configuration, that's totally fine - it just depends on what sort of requests you want to make. Forgive me if I'm assuming something wrong about the fandom/characters with my examples, but just based off what's in this thread we usually want to make sure that eg. someone who wants Sara/Biddy-Collective can't accidentally match to someone wanting Sara/Tally-as-Biddy or someone wanting Sara/Biddy/Biddy/Biddy/etc. with a specific number or configuration (eg. triad) of Biddies. Ships with multiple Biddies or specific Biddies are all welcome, as long as you can work out a way to nominate them clearly and distinctly.

If Tally wasn't always a Biddy, requesting the Biddy specific part of her storyline will be an optional detail and not a requirement for your creator. So if it's just the Biddies you're interested in and not the earlier part of Tally's arc, Sara/Tally might not be the best solution for what you want. Gen works also won't meet the minimum requirements for this exchange, so if you're more interested in friendship than romance you might not want to nominate the Biddies at all.

If you work out what sort of Biddy ship (or different Motherland ship, I don't mind swapping something else in for this rejected tag) you want, let me know and I can add it manually. I was trying to be careful to only reject gen nominations if there was already a matching femslash tag. I think the Biddies were the only exception, but if I missed anything else just link me to your nominations page and I can also replace them with their / equivalents as needed.
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reconditarmonia[personal profile] reconditarmonia on September 12th, 2020 03:09 am (UTC)
Sarah Alder/Original Biddy or Sarah Alder/Specific Biddy could cover hypothetical ships where it's just her and one other biddy rather than the collective of biddies.

Alder/Tally could encompass the period of Tally's plot where she is a biddy, but people might be interested in other Alder/biddy ships and I wouldn't think that someone interested in that should be redirected to requesting Alder/Tally.
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