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28 July 2017 @ 05:39 pm
Wrangling and Clarifications  
Nominations are open here.

Approvals are still very much underway, but a few issues have cropped up so far.
  • The following Wonder Woman crossover tags need clarification from the nominator on which version of Diana you’re requesting. Now that this has been flagged I will also hold off on approving further WW crossovers without those details, so please check if you have unapproved nominations that will need to be edited or drop a comment with details so I can edit them for you:
    • Diana (Wonder Woman)/Eve Moneypenny (James Bond - Craig Movies)
    • Diana (Wonder Woman)/Rita Vrataski (Edge of Tomorrow)
    • Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)/Barbara Gordon (DC Comics)
    • Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)/Hermione Granger (Harry Potter)
    • Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)/Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
    • Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)/Thirteenth Doctor (Doctor Who)
    • Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)/Tina Goldstein (Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them)
  • Elia Martell has been requested for Game of Thrones (TV) but I can’t google up an actress. Can someone confirm she has a canonical presence of some description in the TV show?
  • Lírien/Gwaeren/Ammeril has been nominated for the Hobbit, but from what I’ve found these seem to be fanon names for unnamed canon characters. Are these names widely recognisable to other fans or do they need changing or clarification of some sort? Can the nominator please provide us with more information in case there's questions or changes to be made.
  • Still looking for additional input on combining DC Cinematic Universe. We are more likely to combine than not for consistency with other fandoms, but input is 50/50 at present and definitely using DC Cinematic and it will definitely include Wonder Woman, but I’m not familiar with all the movies so input on scope is still particularly appreciated.
  • Also looking for input on whether The Vampire Diaries and The Originals should be combined. I will err on not combining unless or until directly requested, but there is a strong case for doing so to be consistent with our other combined fandoms should anyone wish to be able to request TVD/Originals pairings outside of the Crossovers tag.
  • Dalish/Skinner, Dragon Age. From what I can google Dalish refers to a group of people, not an individual. Can the nominator please provide more information?

For those not following the comments on the last post the following clarifications have been made so far about combining fandoms:
  • Mass Effect All Media Types will be used this year and include ME Andromeda
  • Star Wars All Media Types is being used again
  • Arrowverse includes Constantine
  • Power Rangers should be nominated under either the canonical movie tag or the non-canonical Power Rangers (TV) which will cover all shows including RPM
  • Game of Thrones (TV) and ASOIAF are separated.

Please continue to drop comments or email as you have questions or notice any issues. If an eligible pairing is declined in your nominations, please double check the tagset. We’re still working through a large queue so it might have been approved under a different combo or changed to combat tag drift. If something eligible was approved or declined in your nominations and is still missing from or in the wrong place in the tagset, definitely let us know.

If anything appears to be languishing in the queue and you think there might be a question about eligibility please feel free to drop us any additional info we might need. At this stage it is most likely just that it’s still buried behind other fandoms, however.

For those reading this on Tumblr, just a reminder that our Tumblr mod is travelling so if you’d like a quicker response you are very welcome to comment anonymously on our Dreamwidth posts in the meantime!
 
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(Anonymous) on July 28th, 2017 07:49 pm (UTC)
The thing that worries me about folding Wonder Woman into the DCU is how it reframes the picture so that the canon is the DCU, not the movie. I'm only interested in Wonder Woman (2017); I don't know anything about the DCU other than that and have no interest in changing that. Yet if they're combined, a writer might very understandably assume that they could take the ship I'd requested and tell a story about them in the broader DC canon. For example, I have zero interest in Diana/Etta encountering Batman & Superman, for instance - less than zero, in fact.

I know I can explain in my signup & letter that I'm only interested in Wonder Woman (2017) canon, and that's what I'll do if they're combined, but that's not a guarantee that my preference would be listened to. (As it would be if the movie was allowed to stand on its own.) It's not something I'm going to throw a fit about, but I do have a preference.
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suzy_queue: Diana: Sea[personal profile] suzy_queue on July 28th, 2017 08:06 pm (UTC)
I get that, and my preference would also be for Wonder Woman to stand alone because honestly it's the only bit I care anything about. I think it's inevitable that it will end up combined, though, and I think we have to rely on good faith. Someone who sees it as part of the whole might still give you that story after all, since Bruce was mentioned in the movie and his actions played a role. And I think it perfectly parallels Captain America: First Avenger--mostly set in past with unique characters, framed by present, was a later entry into the broader universe, and is generally folded into the main movie universe in exchanges despite having its own Ao3 tag.

So, yeah. I completely understand your perspective, and I would be 100% in favor of it standing alone. But if it did, I think this would likely be the only year you could count on that, esp given Themascyra characters showing up in Justice League.

Mods, could we have it stand alone this first year?
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(Anonymous) on July 28th, 2017 09:31 pm (UTC)
FWIW, if "This thing is new this year" and "This part of the universe stands alone and is the only part I'm interested in" were adequate reasons for a fandom to be distinct instead of merged, then Mass Effect Andromeda would be counted separately from the ME trilogy. >_>

(I'm generally of the opinion that far too many fandoms get merged in this challenge, but I also think the policy ought to be consistent if merging is something the mods want to do.)
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Lunar: DC - [Diana] classy danger[personal profile] shopfront on July 28th, 2017 11:03 pm (UTC)
Nobody has thrown any curveball reasons at me that I wasn't aware of to disqualify it, so I'm going with my original impression and definitely going to be combining and including Wonder Woman. Thank you for weighing in though, I'm also not across all the DC movies and I appreciate getting input of either opinion from people likely to request and offer them.
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Lunar: DC - [Diana] classy danger[personal profile] shopfront on July 28th, 2017 11:07 pm (UTC)
Thank you for weighing in! I would suggest popping a note in the optional details of your sign up as well as your letter about your canon preferences to make sure it can't be accidentally missed.

For consistency's sake, I will be wrangling these movies (once I have a clearer picture of all the movies) together like MCU, but I appreciate the feedback.
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