04 August 2018 @ 10:53 pm
Nominations Clarifications, take two  
We have gotten the queue under control! There are a small handful (approximately five) fandoms stuck behind outstanding issues, but most of the straggling combined fandoms that were nominated incorrectly (eg. Thor instead of MCU, Supergirl instead of Arrowverse) have been corrected. If you were still wanting to check the tagset before entering your nominations, now is a good time to do so.

If anyone isn't the nominator but wants to weigh in on the below, please feel free! For issues that were also listed on the previous post, we will begin making best guesses in 24 hours to clear space in the queue.


Fandoms that may (still) require clarification or combination:
  • Hannibal. We've had a nomination for All Media Types. Are we correct in our assumption that Hannibal (TV) is separate and different from the other Hannibal universe(s), or should we combine under AMT? If we separate, what fandom tag should be used for Bedelia Du Maurier/Clarice Starling (or would it be a crossover between different versions of Hannibal?)

  • Fate/zero. Is this a shared universe prequel to Fate/stay night that should be combined under All Media Types? There is ongoing discussion here that you can join.

  • The Worst Witch. We have changed the fandom from All Media Types to Worst Witch (1998 TV), and moved the pairings already approved accordingly, based on feedback that the characters and backstory are different. If you're the nominator and disagree or want them under a different Worst Witch please let us know! If anyone wants to nominate other forms of Worst Witch, please drop us a comment explaining whether it's a shared universe or a separate version so we know which fandom tag best applies.

  • Tolkien. The current likely new split will be: The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit - J. R. R. Tolkien, and Middle Earth - Peter Jackson Movies. This will be the last call for input if anyone else wishes to jump into the discussion, otherwise we will begin approving under the above fandom tags in 24 hours.

  • Neon Genesis Evangelion . Makinami Mari Illustrious/Shikinami Asuka Langley has been moved to Rebuild for the moment. It has been suggested that we combine all Neon Genesis, however. Please pop into the comments below to discuss!


Pairings that may (still) require clarification:
  • Fallout, Desdemona/Glory. Most Fallout nominations are coming under individual titles. Can nominator(s) for the fandom weigh in on whether it's a shared universe, or do we need to assign this pairing (currently under all games) to a specific title? If the latter, which title does it belong to?

  • Fire Emblem, Degel | Kjelle/Serena | Severa. Most Fire Emblem nominations are also under individual titles. Ditto the question, do we need to combine or do we just need to know where to assign this?

  • ASOIAF/Game of Thrones. If anyone is missing pairings under either, please check the list on the last post and let us know.

  • Crossover. Can the nominators for Lara Croft/Diana (Wonder Woman), Aya | Amunet (Assassin's Creed)/Cleopatra VII of Egypt, and Trixie Belden/Nancy Drew, please clarify which Diana or Cleopatra or Nancy you intended, otherwise you'll be chancing matching on any version of those characters.

  • MCU/Crossover. Brunnhilde | Valkyrie/Jessica Jones came in under MCU, so we are assuming Netflix Jessica was intended. That pairing already exists in the crossover tagset, so if you want a different Jessica or Valkyrie please either let us know or update your nomination with clearer fandom indicators. Otherwise we will decline as a duplicate.

  • Marvel (Comics). Can the nominator of Carol Danvers/Jessica Drew or Kate Bishop/America Chavez please update their fandom tag or comment to tell us which Marvel Comics title they want. (If the nominator doesn't show, possible title options that may be intended would be very welcome input from any comics fans!)

  • Sailor Moon: can the nominator of Chibiusa/Tomoe Hotaru please confirm which fandom tag they wanted it under (Anime or Crystal/Manga)?


Additions/Changes to fandom combination rules:
  • Disney. Nominations should be made under Descendents, DuckTales 2017, Maleficent (2014), or Disney - All Media Types. If non-2017 DuckTales fans wish to discuss splitting from All Media Types, please drop us a comment or head here

  • Fallen London | Echo Bazaar. Sunless Seas and Sunless Skies should be nominated as part of Fallen London.

  • Fantastic Beasts. We combined with the canonical umbrella tag Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling, drop us a comment if you wish to discuss it.

  • Castlevania. We have used the umbrella series tag for now, drop us a comment if you wish to discuss it or that's incorrect.

  • Dangan. Combine all nominations under Dangan Ronpa - All Media Types, including V3.


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E.: (nge) major![personal profile] lieu on August 4th, 2018 10:14 pm (UTC)
Not the nominator for either, but re: Fallout (Desdemona/Glory), the standard procedure in exchanges seems to be for the Fallout titles to be separated and I think that works well. This pairing belongs in Fallout 4. Neither character belongs in any other game.

Re: Makinami Mari Illustrious/Shikinami Asuka Langley, I'd agree that putting this pairing in Rebuild is a better idea if that has also been nominated, as Mari does not appear in the original anime series (which is what is meant by the vanilla Neon Genesis Evangelion fandom tag). However, because of the nature of the Evangelion universe (it's implied that Rebuild is a subsequent universe / timeline following NGE and End of Evangelion), grouping all Evangelion-related noms into one fandom tag could be workable if a nominator preferred that?

Edited 2018-08-04 10:15 pm (UTC)
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 4th, 2018 10:23 pm (UTC)
Wonderful, thanks so much!

Desdemona/Glory appear to be buried in the queue, but I'll check it's either already moved or correct it if it pops up as we clear outstanding issues. I've also tweaked the post to ask for feedback about combining Rebuild into Neon Genesis, instead of just on the pairing.

Edit: someone else has dropped by below to describe some characterisation differences that could cause difficulties in matching, so we will likely keep them split at this stage.

Edited 2018-08-04 10:41 pm (UTC)
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 5th, 2018 11:16 am (UTC)
Fallout
Hi again, we've had feedback from someone on Tumblr that "Fallout is one universe, and (most) of the games are canon with each other" so All Media Types is more appropriate.

I don't think we've ever combined Fallout before, and I assume that was for a reason, but if you or anyone else passing by could clarify on how the games fit together in terms of shared/different universes or any characters who do or don't crossover between games, that would be very helpful! If characters are all separate like you said Desdemona and Glory are, and/or some of the games are in their own universes/timelines/etc*, I'm inclined to leave them separate, but I don't want to make assumptions.

*If our Tumblr commenter doesn't have a DW and wants to post anonymously, please feel free to clarify what you were referring to by only most of the games being canon if I've misinterpreted that.
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E.: (hollywood) bacall[personal profile] lieu on August 5th, 2018 05:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Fallout
Sure thing; I should preface by saying I’m still unsure whether I will be signing up for this exchange or requesting Fallout games if I do, so my horse in this race is pretty small.

The games do all take place in a shared universe with some overlap of characters. That being said (and I can only speak for 3, 4, and New Vegas–haven’t played the first two), the games all take place in different places at different times, and whatever character overlap is there is quite minor and usually only at a cameo level. They are very much self-contained stories. The decision to group or split them usually has more to do with the mechanics of the exchange itself; i.e., Fallout 3 is still Yuletide eligible while 4 and NV are not, or I could see someone wanting them to be split in order to meet minimum fandoms requested/offered, etc.

It’s also worth noting that the games themselves are extremely long and involved RPG video games which require a lot of time and effort to canon review, and it’s very plausible someone could know, say, Fallout: New Vegas well enough to feel comfortable to offer it without ever having played Fallout 4, for example.

One reason to potentially group the noms under AMT is if people have nominated pairings of characters from different games without wanting them categorized as “Crossovers”, for whatever reason.
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Lunar: B&tB - [Cat/Tess] all star all girl team[personal profile] shopfront on August 7th, 2018 06:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Fallout
Thank you! It sounds like there could be a case for combining, but as we haven't heard further detail from the other participant or anyone else who is planning to request/offer Fallout, I don't want to risk springing a combination tag that may not suit on all the nominators so close to nominations closing. There also aren't any crossover requests for Fallout at this stage.

If anyone passing by intends to request/offer Fallout and wants a combined tag, please feel free to jump in and discuss.

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