Nominations Clarifications

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Please double check the list of combined fandoms in the last nominations post before nominating large fandoms and franchises that may be combined! Some things may be approved and moved to the umbrella fandom to make space in the queue, but we will largely avoid approving incorrect tags for now wherever we can so we can wrangle correct nominations faster. 

Particular fandoms we've noticed issues with so far, though others may be buried in the queue: 

• Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow instead of Arrowverse (CW TV)
• Black Panther, Thor, and Agents of SHIELD instead of Marvel Cinematic Universe
• Wonder Woman instead of DC Cinematic Universe
• Marvel (Comics) instead of specific Marvel titles
• Sarah Jane Adventures instead of Doctor Who.

Please update your noms with the correct fandom tag if they are still unapproved and on the combined list!


Fandoms that may require clarification or combination:

• Pocket Monsters SPECIAL | Pokemon Adventures: is this different to the Pokemon Main Games tag we've seen before, or would a combined tag be better?
• The Runaways (TV): should this be combined with MCU or Marvel Netflix, or left stand-alone?
• Disney Descendents: does the live action diverge from the rest of Disney enough to stand-alone, or should it be combined under AMT?
• DuckTales 2017: again, stand-alone or AMT?
• Tolkien: we have been discussing changing the fandom tags to split book and movie canon, but most likely to combine in different ways if we make changes, and would love more input from other nominators
• Sunless Sea, Fallen London: should an umbrella fandom be used?
• Star Trek: Discovery is to be nominated as part of Star Trek: Classic Timeline (All Series). All Mirror characters should be nominated under Classic.
• Sailor Moon combinations have been changed slightly. Crystal/Manga is combined, 90s anime and live action are separate. If you wish to nominate another part of Sailor Moon, please drop a comment before nominating so we can discuss the most appropriate split/combination and fandom tag
• Dangan Rompa. We have a nomination for Super Dangan Ronpa 2, and also All Media Types. Can these nominations be combined or is Super a separate fandom?

Pairings that may require clarification:

• ASOIAF/Game of Thrones - can the nominator(s) of the following pairings confirm if they were meant to be TV or book requests/check their pairing is still available in the correct fandom? We had some wandering, and we think they were intended as ASOIAF but we want to double check. 
  • Cersei Lannister/Catelyn Stark
  • Cersei Lannister/Sansa Stark
  • Elia Martell/Lyanna Stark
  • Myrcella Baratheon/Sansa Stark
  • Sansa Stark/Margaery Tyrell
• Ghostbusters (2016): Erin Gilbert/Female Ghost and Jillian Holtzmann/Female Ghost. Do these tags refer to specific female ghosts or original ghosts?
• Tomb Raider/Crossover: Lara Croft/Diana (Wonder Woman). We are assuming this was meant to be a crossover (please correct us if there's a Diana in canon we aren't aware of that you meant to choose instead), which version of Wonder Woman did the nominator want?
• Sailor Moon: can the nominator of Chibiusa/Tomoe Hotaru please confirm which fandom they wanted?
• Crossover: Joan Jett/Kristen Stewart. What are the best RPF fandom groupings to assign to each half of this pairing?
• Crossover/Xena: Aya | Amunet (Assassin's Creed)/Cleopatra VII of Egypt. This has popped up under Xena, we assume as a crossover intended to include Xena's Cleopatra. Can the nominator please confirm that, or if they meant the historical or another version of Cleopatra?
• Crossovers: Trixie Belden/Nancy Drew. Did the nominator intend the book Nancy Drew or another version?

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There's still a decent sized queue that we are working down, we will keep you updated if you're waiting to see what's already approved before nominating. 

Comments

[aicqt]

Pocket Monsters SPECIAL | Pokemon Adventures is a manga separate to the games, though closer to them in mechanics than the anime. It should definitely be kept separate.

Super Dangan Ronpa 2 can be combined, it's just the second in the Dangan Ronpa series.

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Wonderful, thanks so much!

[(Anonymous)]

Just an FYI - the AO3 canonical umbrella tag for DC movies was changed at some point from DC Cinematic Universe to DC Extended Universe. So I used the latter for my nominations (but I can switch it back to "Cinematic" if that would be better for some reason).

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Have you noticed if the fandom tag has sorted better in tagset categories for other exchanges with Extended because of the change? If it's similar either way, we'll stick with Cinematic as there's quite likely tags buried in the queue under that name and we'll have to start moving them around to match Extended.

[(Anonymous)]

Joan Jett/KStew nominator here, and I'd say Music RPF/American Actor RPF?

[shopfront]

Great, thank you!

Disney Descendants

[sirvalkyrie]

Not my nomination.

Descendants takes place a generation after the events of the movies. All of the badguys were resurrected and then imprisoned on an island where they wouldn't have access to their powers. All the kingdoms united under a single country called the United States of Aurodon, under the rulership of the Beast and Belle. Magic isn't really used anymore and the technology is that of modern Earth, regardless of what time period and part of world the originals were set in. Almost everybody, good and evil, has a kid.

Re: Disney Descendants

[withinadream]

Thanks! It sounds different enough to warrant keeping it as a separate fandom, then

[samuraiter]

*waves*

I did not nominate it, but (Super) Danganronpa 2 is in the same continuity as the original Danganronpa, the two Danganronpa 3 anime, and the Ultra Despair Girls spin-off game (but not the Danganronpa V3 game, which is kinda-sorta a separate continuity). ... IMO, you can safely use "All Media Types" for this one unless Danganronpa V3 got nominated in there somewhere.

[withinadream]

Thanks!

[shopfront]

That's really helpful, thank you! For anyone passing by interested in Dangan - please nominate under either All Media Types or Danganronpa V3, or comment if you disagree and want to discuss how to split/combine things.

[evilmuffins]

A few '&' ships seem to have popped up in Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken | Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword!

[withinadream]

Thanks for pointing that out!

[lilacsigil]

Not my nomination, but The Runaways (TV) is a separate continuity and shares no characters with the MCU.

[withinadream]

Thanks!

[(Anonymous)]

I nominated those Ghostbusters pairs—no specific ghosts in mind, any will do, canon or original!

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Okay, good to know, thanks! It seems borderline too close 'any character' with some room for confusion/inaccuracy during matching so I'm going to change them to Original Female Ghosts. If you want, you can add individual canon ghosts using either their names if their living identities were referenced, or brief identifying descriptions like Ghost in the Striped Dress or whatever seems most appropriate. If you've already used up all your relationship tag spots under Ghostbusters, feel free to drop a list here and I can add them for you.

[(Anonymous)]

Ducktales nom - I'd be really confused if it was combined with any other canon since it's its own thing.

[burglebezzlemen]

Not the nominator, but I would second that Ducktales (2017) is a separate thing, as another Ducktales fan.

There is a ton of intense debate online about the degree to which Ducktales crosses over with various other Disney properties, but I think it's generally agreed that the Duckverse (in which Ducktales takes place) in general is its own thing, separate from other Disney properties. And the 2017 Ducktales reboot in particular is a different thing from earlier incarnations of the Duckverse, including the original Ducktales. Major characters have different backstories and different character traits and character designs, and some characters only occur in one version of the show.

For example: Webby underwent a total personality reboot and character redesign, with a lot of new interests and skills her original never had. Lena, her best friend, only exists in the 2017 universe. Mrs. Beakley wasn't (as far as I recall) a former secret agent in the original universe, and I think her spy nemesis, Black Heron, is also original to the 2017 universe... and so on.

[capsized]

I'm not sure if you're cleaning up the tagset as you go or waiting until after nominations have closed, but in case it's the former: "Cordelia Naismith Vokosigan/Alys Vorpatril" looks to be appearing twice under Vorkosigan Saga - Lois McMaster Bujold!

[shopfront]

Definitely cleaning as we go, thanks for the heads up! It should be fixed now.

[tigerlily]

I accidentally nominated Anya Jenkins/Buffy Summers instead of "/", sorry!

[shopfront]

No problem, it's been fixed, thanks for the heads up!

[apgeeksout]

I nominated all of the Fallen London pairings + some of the Sunless Sea ones currently in the tagset.

Both games share some elements of the setting, and a few characters appear in both, but gameplay is significantly different, such that there are fans who are pretty invested in one game that don’t play the other at all. I would lean toward leaving them separate, unless the other nominator(s) are strongly in favor of combining.

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I'm only a casual player so I wanted to check, but that tallies with what I thought I remembered. Our grounds for combination is whether there's a shared universe with potential for crossover pairings, or if there are canon crossover of characters, which it sounds like there is. So we'll go ahead and combine it under an umbrella. Thanks for weighing in!

Tagset stuff

[sirvalkyrie]

Doubles

Power Rangers (TV)
Kira Ford/Tori Hanson
Kira Ford/Tori Hanson (TV)

Wandering tags

Everything under Fate/Zero is also under Fate/stay night - All Media Types. Fate/Zero is a prequel to Fate/stay night. My guess is that Irisviel von Einzbern/Arturia Pendragon | Saber was intended under Fate/Zero and Arturia Pendragon/Tohsaka Rin | Saber/Tohsaka Rin, Matou Sakura/Arturia Pendragon | Saber, and Matou Sakura/Tohsaka Rin were intended under Fate/stay night.

Under Monster High, Blondie Lockes is an Ever After High character. C. A, Cupid is a character in both and explicitly is mentioned transferring schools.

Other Issues

You have Neon Genesis Evangelion and Rebuild of Evangelion | Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition. Rebuild is an alternate universe movie series that diverges from the timeline of the original anime. It isn't uncommon for people to historically nominate characters and ships for either under regular Neon Genesis Evangelion. But since you have them separate, Makinami Mari Illustrious/Shikinami Asuka Langley makes more sense under Rebuild. Mari only exists in Rebuild and Asuka's last name is Shikinami only in the Rebuild movies.

Re: Tagset stuff

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Thank you so much! I've fixed Power Rangers and Neon Genesis.

For Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night, if one is a prequel to the other is that something we should be combining as opposed to fixing wandering tags? Ditto with Ever After and Monster High, if there's canonic character crossover. It sounds like they meet our shared universe rule, but I don't want to make assumptions when I'm not familiar with either. I'll also add both to the next clarification post to make sure any other people familiar with the fandoms can weigh in if necessary.

[rubylily]

I spotted some more wandering tags. Under BanG Dream! (Anime), Minato Yukina/Shirokane Rinko, Minato Yukina/Toyama Kasumi, Okusawa Misaki/Ushigome Rimi, Shirokane Rinko/Udagawa Ako, and Udagawa Tomoe/Yamabuki Saaya wandered over from BanG Dream! Girl's Band Party! (Video Game).

Also, I found some ships that were accidentally nominated with & instead of /:

Dangan Ronpa - All Media Types: Sonia Nevermind & Saionji Hiyoko
Slayers (Anime & Manga): Filia Ul Copt & Luna Inverse, Luna Inverse & Zelas Metallium
Yu-Gi-Oh!: Mazaki Anzu | Tea Gardner & Nosaka Miho
逆転裁判 | Gyakuten Saiban | Ace Attorney: Mikotoba Susato & Murasame Haori

[shopfront]

Thanks so much! They should all be corrected now, but if you spot any lingering issues please let us know.

[philosapphic]

I'm always fretting about finalizing my nominations list, can I edit it after I've submitted it (but before the deadline)?

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The short answer is that we wouldn't recommend it. The long answer is yes, but only to an extent. You can edit any nomination up until it's approved. But we approve constantly throughout the nomination period, and AO3 doesn't tell us who nominated what so we couldn't try and hold off specifically on your nominations (and it would be very easy to sweep them up by accident even if we were trying not to, honestly), and if you nominate anything already approved eg. same fandom as nominations already in the tagset, it will be automatically approved the second you submit your nominations. Then even if the pairings aren't approved yet, you're locked into that fandom. So editing is theoretically possible, but if you're relying on being able to change things I would wait to submit them if you can.

[parcequelle]

Heads up that there's a duplicate in Star Wars - All Media Types: Amilyn Holdo/Leia Organa and Leia Organa/Amilyn Holdo!

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Thank you! One has been removed.

[outstretched]

Hi! I'm Skylark on AO3 and I just nominated some obscure pairings/fandoms - I just wanted to leave this comment here so that if you had any questions/required any clarification on anything, you could get in touch easily! Thank you for all your hard work!

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Thanks Skylark, that's very thoughtful! Unfortunately AO3 doesn't tell us who nominated what, we just get a great big list of fandoms and pairings from everyone, so we won't be able to identify yours if there's any issues. I'd recommend keeping an eye on the community for clarification posts if you think there might be any questions.

[(Anonymous)]

The Worst Witch - All Media Types seems to be exclusively nominations for the Worst Witch TV show which features several characters who only exist in the 1998-2001 TV show and it's spin off and have different back stories to the books.

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Thank you! Sounds like a good case to split the fandoms if anyone wants to nominate other versions, so I've swapped the fandoms. I'll make a note on the next post in case the nominator wants to weigh in.